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Knife Control Be scared of pointy objects!
By: David K. Every
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Article Jul 09,1999 13 KB |
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ne of the things that pro-Second Amendment people are afraid of is not only the stupidity in the current gun laws, but how far the laws are going (and the momentum). A good example of this is knife control laws.
Remember, laws basically mean that some behavior (or tool) is so dangerous that, "you should be imprisoned, killed or have your property taken if you violate this law". Just the behavior (or tools existance) is such a threat by its very existence that you should be locked away for the good of society.
In California, for the "good of the many" it was decided that many knives would be "controlled".
           
Spring loaded knives, or knives that can be opened under the weight of the blade are considered crimes in California (and other states). The dreaded switch blades and such. Of course most switch blades have never been very good knives -- it is hard to get a good heavy reliable blade to extend well with a spring (and have a highly reliable mechanism). While it was a favorite of Hollywood to show gang members or muggers using these things, most of them seemed to prefer more reliable, sturdy or cheaper weapons (like a lead pipe). So it is dubious if the law has done any good at all (as far as crime or criminals). Yes, the law has probably kept these toys out of the hands of a few people's hands -- but probably not any of the people that you wouldn't want to have them. Any serious gang members already have access to these tools as they are often already the distribution channel for drugs (thanks to our brilliant drug laws that made those profitable as well). So all the people that shouldn't have access to these tools still have ready access on the streets -- but all the law abiding citizens and knife collectors that want these weapons are forbidden from having them (or considered criminals for having them) under the law. We have made criminals out of (otherwise) perfectly law abiding citizens and done nothing to deter crime -- what a great gain to society.
             
Some knives can be opened with the help of gravity. Some have to be pointed down, or others can be flicked out (and really just use momentum). These were made illegal because they were too easy to open. One type of gravity knife that was considered especially dangerous was the butterfly knife. A butterfly knife has a hinged handle, and if you know how to work it, you can be flashy and open in with one hand with a complex series of wrist flick, and have it opne in a large fraction of a second (with twirls and clicks).
Somewhere I have an old Butterfly Knife that I bought before the law really kicked in, and now for just owning it I'm guilty of some misdemeanor or felony. Of course good luck at finding it, it is stuffed in a box somewhere and I actually broke the tip off of it when I dropped it once. I managed to slice myself a few times -- but got the point where I could twirl it, flip it in the air and catch it (open or closed), snap it open a dozen different ways and master something. It was actually quite a skill to practice and learn and fun/hard to do well. We must stop that, who knows where that freedom might lead!
Of course many legal pocket knives have a little thumb post on the blade that you can flick and open (and lock the knife open) with one hand in a lot less time and with a lot less skill than it takes to operate a butterfly knife -- and they are far more reliable weapons for muggging -- but as usual the laws aren't about intelligence, reason, speed, danger or anything that makes sense, they are about what some legislator put on paper and got passed by the uninformed. And what are you really going to do, outlaw adding a small post to all pocket knives? Puhlease! These laws are about punishing the minority because some well meaning imbecile thinks the world would be safer if we protected everyone from themselves. We have politicians (and people buying in) that we should seriously waste time trying to dull all the sharp edges of the world, and pad all the corners. Last year as a nation we passes 25,000 new laws -- each one taking away some rights and freedoms of someone and shifting the power away from individuals in this country. There is no way to keep up on all those laws -- and so the only results are to turn law abiding citizens into criminals. In almost all those laws, the real criminals could already be punished under other laws -- so they serve no purpose. Criminals still get the weapons and can now make money smuggling them, but collectors and law abiding citizens will be punished.
It was like in California where they passed "drive by shooting laws" -- I wanted to slap the legislators and point out that already loaded guns in city limits, loaded guns in cars, shooting in city limits, shooting out of a car, shooting at a person, pointing a weapon at a person, minors with a gun, the models of guns they used, attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, reckless endangerment, reckless driving, and probably 50 other things being done at the time were already against the law! These laws do nothing or are counter productive.
              
Another brilliant law is Shuriken/Shaken laws (like in California). A shuriken is a multi-pointed throwing knife (like a Ninja weapon) and shakens are usually other forms of throwing knives (darts, spikes and so on). These things were considered much too dangerous -- I think the legislators watched one too many Hollywood movie or TV show, and decided to just outlaw the whole mess. In California, if you own any multi-pointed / bladed disk that could be thrown at someone, then you are guilty of a felony (at least a misdemeanor). Notice OWNING is the crime -- you don't have to use it, threaten some one, or endanger anyone (which are real crimes), you are guilty just for having it. The law is so vague that you are technically guilty of a felony for owning a circular saw blade (if it is not actually mounted to a saw) -- and a few people have even been prosecuted for it.
Basically as a society we've said that the police should have the right to harass and arrest anyone for just about anything -- and we should just count on judges or our system to sort it out. This the state that passed 1,500 new laws last year alone. How did we ever get by without them? This is the same system (and judges) that lets murderers go free all the time because the guy confessed before his lawyer was there, or that puts people into prison for life for a small quantity of drugs or takes people's house/car/boat because they found a marijuana seed in it (under "Zero Tolerance") or steals people's cash if you carry too much of it and they think you MIGHT be using it for anything drug related. And these are cops that are so overworked trying to deal with the big issues, like someone going 5 mph over the speed limit, rolling a stop-sign, or someone owning a gravity knife, that they don't have enough resources to track down the murderers and rapists. I think we (as a society) need to get some perspective. Each new law dilutes the rest!
Now the irony of the Shuriken laws is that long after the law was passed, some gang members actually did throw circular saw blades at one another in some fight, and there were some injuries -- but they were guilty of dozens of other felonies under the law like Assault, Assault with a Deadly Weapon, Attempted Murder, Aggravated Assault and so on. The Shuriken laws did nothing to stop the action, and nothing to punish the people more than the bigger laws that were already on the books. They have prevented lots of collectors from having them, and prevented lots of martial artists from playing.
Once again, I am a felon. I had some shurikens. As a kid I made my own out of horseshoe nails and a welder, exacto-knife blades and a spot welder (along with some solder for weight), along with about a dozen other kids I knew. I bought a few out of state, and you can make them with a good grinder and some metal stock. I knew lots of kids that did this kind of stuff, and society says that they all belong in prison for being kids (and being stupid) and owning something that is sharp and pointy! Learning to throw stars was not an easy skill, and wasn't much easier than learning how to throw regular knives (as well as throwing knives). I have a thing for learning tricky skills, not because I would ever harm anyone with these things, but because it is so challenging. It took me many months of regular practice to make a knife stick where I wanted it at any range -- and realistically it gets pretty worthless beyond about 15 or 20 feet. Let me assure you, the most skilled people out there could probably not kill a sleeping person with a shuriken at 10 feet if their life depended on it. You can hit targets, but just not with enough penetration to kill. Thrown knives are more effective -- but not that much. You'd be far wiser to just stab someone than to throw them your weapon. So naturally we protect society from the tremendous dangers of throwing knives (like Shurikens), even though there was never a problem with crimes of this nature. It was another case of legislators watching too many spy movies. There is a joke in engineering that the most dangerous thing in your building is a manager with technical manual (because they think they have a clue) -- well apply that to legislators with a TV set or who frequent movies and you get the idea!
         
Of course the laws don't stop with knives. Sitcks are a big danger too -- so we are legislating the heck out of those -- baseball bats are a felony (batons). There are certain exclusions if you are going to or from a sporting event -- but basically you can be arrested and harassed at any time. I did martial arts and used to practice with every weapon under the sun at some point. The other butterfly knives (short swords), swords (Japanese Katana and Wakazashi, Chinese swords, Filipino, etc.). Tonfa, Baton, Long Staff, Short Staff, Multi-Sectional Staff, Chains, Escrima sticks, Nunchakus, and so on, and so forth. All illegal in some form or another, and for many you can be harassed for just owning them. Many were hard to get, many were arrestable offenses for bringing them to or from class. Each time one of these laws is passed it doesn't change a criminals behavior -- but it does teach the masses (or a minority of them) more contempt for our laws.
I stopped a robbery once outside my condo -- and when a kid started coming at me with a knife, I pulled my gun (and he decided the error of his ways, and ran). I asked someone to call the owner of the car that had been broken into (to assess damage and so on) but instead they called the police. They responded quickly, and showed up in 10 minutes -- of course if I hadn't have had a gun (or know martial arts) I might have been perforated before they ever arrived (which is the reason that law abiding citizens must have the right to own weapons in the first place). Since the cops were coming, and I didn't want to be wandering around with a gun, I put the gun away. Technically I was OK having the gun, but I didn't want to carry it and intimidate the neighbors, and I certainly didn't want to conceal it (a bigger offense). But I wanted to have something (just in case) -- so I stuffed an extendable baton in my wasteband. I figured if the kids came back (the kid with the knife), I could easily out range them and safely win that conflict. Of course they weren't likely to come back -- and if they did come back they probably would have brought a gun and I would have been screwed -- but it was still a placebo that I wanted to have.
When I was filing the report to the police, and asking him about the legality of the situation (with me and the gun on my property) he just chuckled and pointed out that the gun was fine, but even owning an "evil" extendable baton was a felony! That was a surprise to me -- but I told him that it was a good thing that I only had this extendable tire-tester thing and he laughed. Thank goodness the police (by and large) have more common sense than the legislators (most of the time). But it only takes one idiot cop (or cop in charge) to ruin it for the rest of them, and to annoy the masses and waste money. And if someone was clubbing someone with one, then of course the cops would have already been able to arrest them without that stupid law!
All these bad laws aren't making the world a better place -- they only teach intolerance and fear, and turn otherwise ordinary law abiding citizens into criminals. The criminals aren't dissuaded by these bad laws, and lawyers, cops and the court system don't have time to enforce them. Collectors or people interested in these things are prevented from learning and playing (or it is made more difficult) because some totalitarian paranoids think that sharp and pointy objects are too dangerous for the common man. And we have to outlaw sticks (clubs) too. I wonder when they are going to decide that stones are too dangerous for society? 
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